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After a stretch of playing mainly on pokerstars, I went back to play a limit cash game at UB today. From being one of the fastest places to play, it now seems to be one of the slowest- frequent freezes, players being timed out etc. Was just wondering if this is a regular thing at UB now? I think I remember someone posted about them having server problems before, but I was playing there at the time and hadn't noticed any significant problems. If what happened at my table today happened regularly, I simply wouldn't play there anymore, which is a shame because it is a very good site- at least it used to be. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 381 | From: UK | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | decigam Member Member # 2938 Rate Member posted 03-17-2004 07:51 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The tables tend to slow down/freeze when players are leaving the table or new people are joining in. I don't know if it has always been like that, but have noticied it lately as well. It tends to be ok if there is not too much table rotation though.

Ed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 113 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | BigSlick4710 Member Member # 3244 Rate Member posted 03-17-2004 07:53 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I constantly get disconnected from UB, which cost me a lot of money the other day, and I have cable connection. Is Poker Stars any good? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 101 | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | jestein Member Member # 2549 Member Rated: posted 03-17-2004 08:27 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wish someone would have told me about ultimate bet before I deposited money. Personally, I hate the place. I stricly play omaha 8/b. At ultimate, there is rarely a game going above 3/6 and most of the time that isn't even full. Couple that with the slow server, and I can't wait to cash out fast enough. The only reason I am putting up with it is to play through my 20% deposit bonus. It is taking me forever. TO ALL OUT THERE: IF you are a omaha player stick to party!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 130 | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged |

brains Member Member # 2055 Member Rated: posted 03-17-2004 09:45 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by decigam: The tables tend to slow down/freeze when players are leaving the table or new people are joining in. I don't know if it has always been like that, but have noticied it lately as well. It tends to be ok if there is not too much table rotation though. Ed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I noticed that too, I actually started the table I was playing at so initially it was very bad. But even when the table filled up, there was still enough rotation to make it very annoying. Bigslick- I have DSL, I didnt get disconnected myself, but others did, coupled with the freezes it cost me money also because it killed some of the action I would have received when I holding strong hands. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 381 | From: UK | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | GarySJFL Member Member # 1342

Member Rated: posted 03-17-2004 09:53 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I haven't noticed this in the ring games, but when UB has large-field tournaments (over 400) the delays can be bothersome. My guess is that their algorithm for re-seating players in very large fields is poor. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1941 | From: south Florida | Registered: Dec 2002 | IP: Logged | brains Member Member # 2055 Member Rated: posted 03-17-2004 10:08 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I actually sent an email to UB about it after I posted, they replied back within a half an hour (impressive- had hands lasting longer than that today ) with the following: Hello, Thank you for contacting us. The delays and freezes many players have experienced in recent weeks is due to a sudden surge in growth of the company. Our servers have been receiving very large amounts of traffic which at times can slow down our system. To handle this growth our programmers are working on installing new servers which will help keep things running smoothly. We appreciate your understanding and patience in this matter. Sincerely, Christopher Customer Service Department - nice to get a quick response, but sadly no indication of the time this upgrade would take though. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 381 | From: UK | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | Bruce C. Member Member # 3276 Member Rated: posted 03-18-2004 04:23 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, nighttime at UB can be slow time, and when you get a three-way action hand in a no limit tournament with a knockout and a side pot, that's the time to take a break. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3127 | From: Illinois | Registered: Mar 2004 | IP: Logged | MajorCP Moderator Member # 2277

Member Rated: posted 03-19-2004 01:28 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Late last year they were much, much faster, and it seemed like there were more tables active than there are now. I've also noticed that there are more players with non-US profiles than there were a year ago. Whatever it is, I'm sure they'll get it fixed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1540 | From: Phoenix AZ USA | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | incoherentb Member Member # 3385 posted 03-19-2004 03:26 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pokerstars > UB imo! UB's RNG seems sketchy! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 122 | Registered: Mar 2004 | IP: Logged | GarySJFL Member Member # 1342 Member Rated: posted 03-19-2004 07:06 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by MajorCP: Late last year they were much, much faster, and it seemed like there were more tables active than there are now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've noticed this too. Honestly, I've been playing less at UB lately, just because the games at Party and Pacific at the same stake level are far more profitable. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1941 | From: south Florida | Registered: Dec 2002 | IP: Logged | Bruce C. Member Member # 3276 Member Rated: posted 03-21-2004 01:04 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is off topic but I am smarting. UB must do something with its RNG. I have been playing hold em a long long time, and have seen lots of bad beats and river suckouts. But they seem to come fast and furious, and they almost always favor the aggressor/come bettor. I've hit my share, but today was my day to get hit. A10 in hand A10 on board cracked by KQ on river with J. Broadway on turn cracked by a board pair. And many more, those were just knockout hands. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3127 | From: Illinois | Registered: Mar 2004 | IP: Logged | bilo Member Member # 2505 Member Rated: posted 03-21-2004 01:42 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Bruce C.: This is off topic but I am smarting. UB must do something with its RNG. I have been playing hold em a long long time, and have seen lots of bad beats and river suckouts. But they seem to come fast and furious, and they almost always favor the aggressor/come bettor. I've hit my share, but today was my day to get hit. A10 in hand A10 on board cracked by KQ on river with J. Broadway on turn cracked by a board pair. And many more, those were just knockout hands. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's a computer virus. Until recently only party poker was infected, but it spread to UB as well. I fear Pokerstars is next. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 809 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | GarySJFL Member Member # 1342 Member

Rated: posted 03-22-2004 02:42 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by bilo: It's a computer virus. Until recently only party poker was infected, but it spread to UB as well. I fear Pokerstars is next. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was afraid this would happen. For those that aren't up on it, the Faulty.RNG computer virus causes online poker players to lose hands to runner-runner non-nut straights and other ridiculous backdoor draws. Faulty.RNG replicates itself by attaching to certain players who lose hands in this fashion. It infects new poker sites when these players stop playing the old site because it's infected. Therefore, it is inevitable that all internet poker sites will eventually become infected with Faulty.RNG. However, there are a few tips that will help protect you from the effects of this virus. 1. If you ever lose a hand because of the Faulty.RNG virus, do not post at any internet message board about it! New strains of the Faulty.RNG virus are capable of infecting not just poker sites, but poker message boards as well. The most innocuous message about Faulty.RNG could result in the virus being spread to all players who read the forum! In fact, any message about Faulty.RNG usually results in several immediate responses by other people reporting that they have been infected as well. 2. Never cash out. In addition to the above methods, Faulty.RNG can also attach itself to a funds withdrawal, no matter what method of funding the online poker player is using. It is a common misconception that players who make large or frequent withdrawals from poker sites are at the highest risk of infection. On the contrary; the typical user who reports a Faulty.RNG infection is making his first ever withdrawal after multiple deposits, and is withdrawing $100 or less. Players reading this message are advised that they may deposit money into their account as often as they need to. Faulty.RNG only attaches itself to withdrawals. 3. Faulty.RNG infects specific executable files on the victim's system. The four most commonly infected are: PartyPoker.exe (by far the most common); PacificPoker.exe; PokerStars.exe; and UltimateBet.exe. Deleting all such files from your computer will generally remove the virus. (Note: In a few rare cases, C:\WilsonSoftware\TTHoldem.exe can be infected as well.) 4. You can protect yourself from Faulty.RNG by looking for tables with certain characteristics. The text string "GarySJFL" exposes a weakness in Faulty.RNG that renders it harmless. If you only play at tables where a user named "GarySJFL" is present, you will be completely safe from Faulty.RNG. Each of the major poker sites has several users with this same name. They have been set up by the sites themselves to exploit the weakness in Faulty.RNG; they do their best to confirm that "GarySJFL" is playing poker at all times. (If you have any questions about this policy, please contact the site.) In conclusion, if you believe your online poker game has been infected with Faulty.RNG, you must do the following: 1. Don't post about it. 2. Never cash out. 3. Delete PartyPoker.exe and other such programs. 4. If you are not willing to do 1-3 above, then only play at tables where GarySJFL is present. [ 03-22-2004, 12:44 AM: Message edited by: GarySJFL ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1941 | From: south Florida | Registered: Dec 2002 | IP: Logged | Jonny5alive Junior Member Member # 3260 Rate Member posted 03-22-2004 06:03 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it possible to create a trojan with the Faulty.RNG to infect certain players? LOL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 28 | From: Stillwater, MN | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | MajorCP Moderator Member # 2277 Member Rated: posted 03-22-2004 02:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary that was a great post. It has to be true, as it is a well-established fact that no one who's posted on this board to share their experiences with the Faulty.RNG virus has ever cashed out of a poker site, either prior to or subsequent to infection. I read elsewhere that the only way to eliminate the virus is to 1) sit at a table with someone familiar with Faulty.RNG (but who is still somehow uninfected), 2) announce that you're adjusting your play to account for YOUR system being infected, and then 3) raise all your low flush draws and gutshot straght draws, as it's common knowledge that Faulty.RNG makes these hit 83% of the time. Don't forget to raise on the river even when you've missed your draw, as there's a retrovirus version that lets you make your hand retroactively, but only when you bet - - that's what some sites mean when they talk about factoring player actions into their RNG. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1540 | From: Phoenix AZ USA | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | Bruce C. Member Member # 3276 Member Rated: posted 03-22-2004 04:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Gary and Major, I deserved that. But you should have seen the SNG I just played. Three way showdown, everyone has small pocket pairs and the board makes a Broadway. AA against 66 all in, flop comes garbage, then 66 turn/river. A10 all in against AJ, J hits river to crack A109 board. A3 against a4 on Ax3 board, 4 on river. QQ against TT, 478 hit we're all in, 56 turn river. One or two more not quite so memorable. I know it happens, but the frequency is stunning. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3127 | From: Illinois | Registered: Mar 2004 | IP: Logged | Jimmyjohn Member Member # 1262 Member Rated: posted 03-23-2004 12:42 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Floating this up to the top so I can find it again later...have some questions. JJ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1105 | From: Victoria, Texas | Registered: Nov 2002 | IP: Logged | Zimba

Junior Member Member # 3447 Rate Member posted 03-23-2004 08:52 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by BigSlick4710: I constantly get disconnected from UB, which cost me a lot of money the other day, and I have cable connection. Is Poker Stars any good? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poker Stars is a solid site - much like UB but with lots of small games - more players and more tournaments. I saw a dozen online poker rooms reviewed on a website: Poker Site reviews -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2 | From: Raton, NM | Registered: Mar 2004 | IP: Logged | skyking Member Member # 3035 Rate Member posted 03-24-2004 01:06 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Great post Gary!!! I gave you the highest rating for that post!!! You've done us all a favor for exposing this horrible virus. I don't want to delete those files, so I've added GarySJFL to all my buddy lists and will actively seek out that user name. Thanks again. It's people like you that keep online poker safe for the rest of us! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 106 | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | bilo Member Member # 2505 Member Rated: posted 03-25-2004 06:59 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by bilo: It's a computer virus. Until recently only party poker was infected, but it spread to UB as well. I fear Pokerstars is next. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As I predicted, it did spread to PokerStars: http://www.thepokerforum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000206 Please fallow Gary's advice, we can stop this epidemic. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 809 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | BiNgOsHaDo Member Member # 2496 Member Rated: posted 03-25-2004 09:58 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GarySJFL... That was, by far, the most stunning bitch-slap these young eyes have ever witnessed. I hope you flop a Royal... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 567 | From: Bremerton, WA USA | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | MajorCP Moderator Member # 2277 Member Rated: posted 03-25-2004 05:39 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ahhh take it easy on Bruce, this board is the place to vent and his post wasn't out of line. Who here hasn't had a session where you just couldn't win - - so bad that you suspected that something was stacked against you? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1540 | From: Phoenix AZ USA | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | GarySJFL Member Member # 1342 Member Rated: posted 03-26-2004 12:03 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It wasn't my intent to dump on Bruce. Sorry if it looked like an attack on him. But bilo's "virus" comment got my creative juices going and I couldn't resist, in light of the numerous RNG threads we've had here of late. Glad y'all enjoyed it. Now if we can just get McAfee to do something about this... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1941 | From: south Florida | Registered: Dec 2002 | IP: Logged | Bruce C. Member Member # 3276 Member Rated: posted 03-26-2004 11:30 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No offense taken at all, folks. A good tongue-in-cheek is better than a pair of Aces wired. Aces can be cracked, but the ability to laugh at oneself is indomitable. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3127 | From: Illinois | Registered: Mar 2004 | IP: Logged | brains Member Member # 2055 Member Rated: posted 03-26-2004 02:02 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cant get onto to UB at the moment as it says they are currently upgrading their server - hopefully this will solve the problems. ...i'm not sure what this is, but think someone pulled it on me last night... it seemed fishy...i don't understand it... i think i went all in with a set, then suddenly the guys seat went black which meant he was disconnected somehow, and stayed that way for a while.... his seat said 'all in' but he wasn't there...can anyone explain what this is ? why would someone do this? i don't understand it. . . is it cheating somehow? thx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 479 | From: phoenix,az,usa | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | CTBob Member Member # 2546 post

ed 03-24-2004 11:40 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes it is cheating. Basically you put your opponent to a decision, and he's too much of a pussy to either call you down or lay his hand down, so he disconnects and is treated as all-in. That way there is little risk for him. If he loses, he only loses the amount of money he put on the table before he disconnected. It is frustrating. I only had it happen to me once in an NL cash game. I had the best hand on the end and moved all in against the big stack on the table. If he called, about 60% of his chips would be gone. But since he disconnected, I only ended up winning a medium pot instead of a monster. Once this jerk came back on line, I began the verbal assault. I criticized this jerk on ever hand he was in. Every time he folded, I just typed "pussy" in the chat window. After about ten minutes of harassment from me he left. Looking back, I really should have reported this scumbag to Paradise Poker. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2728 | From: Ansonia,CT,USA | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | incoherentb Member Member # 3385 posted 03-24-2004 12:09 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i dont see this problem at pokerstars! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 122 | Registered: Mar 2004 | IP: Logged | Siohmy Member Member # 2356 Member Rated: posted 03-24-2004 01:48 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This does make my blood boil as I posted in the Live Casino Play area. I personally have never used an all-in in this manner and never will. I have been bluffed off big pots on the turn but even then I will not use it for two reasons. 1) If you continue to play and get legitimately disconnected on a monster pot from a winning position you are screwed. If my all-in is used for whatever reason I either go back to playing tournaments or low-limit unless I can the all-in reinstated. 2) Not to boast as I am, and always will be, still learning but I am a better player than that. If I needed to be a coward in order to win my money I'd quit right away. If you get one of these players at your table try to keep them there. If they went all-in (should be their only one for the day) you could problably win a number of marginal pots just from putting the heat on with a big bet. Bluff them, show them the cards then wait to trap them with a monster. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 936 | From: NYC | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | SirBetsAlot Member Member # 2661 Member Rated: posted 03-24-2004 02:00 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yeah, this does suck, BenBenYang on Paradise did it to me once in a $1 tourney, and then i saw him do it again later in the same tourney to another player!!! I reported it the first time, and the second time too... he still finished 28th and won 8 bux... o well... what are u gona do? Paradise gave me back my buy-in, and they said, he had not done this before, so they'll let it slide. 2 all-ins in a matter of an hour... the one vs. me he had me beat w/ a kicker, but he wasn't gona call me large bet, and the other time, he had the winning hand by a small margin, and didn't call the large sized bet.... just put the names of the people that do this and what site they play at.. maybe start a black-list -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 159 | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | feverpa Member Member # 3217 Rate Member posted 03-24-2004 02:16 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree this tactic sucks... but I'm wondering how you can tell if it's intentional.. I usually have a great connection... but on two specific occasions have had connection problems... significant ones... and twice it was during a hand that I was in... I was frantic... couldn't get back on... took me 5 minutes to re-connect... apologized and explained to the table when I got back... maybe they didn't believe me? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1201 | From: sitting next to Jesus in the Fridge | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | wildbillhickok Member Member # 2679 posted 03-24-2004 02:31 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...OHHHH,, i think i understand now...he knew he was probably beat, so he pulls this, and STILL gets to be in the hand but with only what he already had in the pot... What a cowardice play!! Oh, well, what goes around, comes around... off with their heads! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 479 | From: phoenix,az,usa | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | Remmdawg Junior Member Member # 3414 Rate Member posted 03-24-2004 02:41 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I like the idea of a black list, I have had people do the all in ploy to me it drives me nuts. I have a dial up connection not DSL and have not had this problem on my side. I think a nice fix for this would be similar to how when you play on line video games using your play station 2, your online name has a bio that people can see, and if you are the type of player who after going down 14 points in the first quarter of John Madden Football turns off the game you get a bad disconnection percentage that everyone can see. It makes you tough to get a game if yours is to high. Maybe they should do the same for online poker, no one will want to play at a table with you if your disconnection is too high, and if its higher than a certain number then you cannot register for a tournament until you get it back down by playing correctly? Just a thought REM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 26 | From: California | Registered: Mar 2004 | IP: Logged | tadpole Junior Member Member # 2637 Rate Member posted 03-24-2004 04:58 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i've been disconnected at royal vegas on my dial up DURING tourney's so many times i quit playing there. if it's a multi table tourney they won't give you your buy in back. it is so frustrating. usually you can get back on in a few minutes, but while in a wpt tourney i tried for an hour and couldn't get on. they suck. is this better on dsl? i live in a rural area and cable modem isn't an option. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 16 | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | HuskerFan Member Member # 2310 Rate Member posted 03-24-2004 05:39 PM --------------

------------------------------------------------------------------ its happened to me a couple times...Party is FINALLY starting to crack down on this...the 200NL tables just have too much money invested in pots to have that type of shit happen...if i see anyone do it at the table...i request the hand history and send it to partypoker...they now have an investigations team that will check the history of the player in question and will take away their disconnection protection forever......what i find comical is sometimes you see a guy pull it..he's out 1 hand and back in the next...you know its blantent...and you start on their case and he responds and actually admitts it...its not to hard to prove their guilt after that as all the chat is recorded in the hand history...ive mentioned to PP several times, they are too lax in the amount of disconnects they allow...UB only allows 2 a month...its definitely a pain but at least PP is starting to do something about the problem.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 164 | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | kipin Junior Member Member # 2760 Rate Member posted 03-24-2004 08:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You know, without that disconnect protect, I would lose a lot of hands I should win. Let me explain my story. For some reason, the party poker software sucks donkey balls on my computer, and I will here a *beep* then I will not see a Check/Fold/Bet/Raise button. It just beeps and sits there. It's been very frustrating in the past, I've lost some really nice hands because (AKs, QQ, KK, TT etc.) of it beeping pre flop, and no options show up and it auto folds me. The only way to correct the problem once it happens, is to exit the software, and reconnect, this seems to fix the problem for me. It is very frustrating, and its probably not even worth my time to contact the tech support, since I've heard they're all worthless outsourced people anyway. /Rant over -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 7 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | FatMaxx Member Member # 2792 Rate Member posted 03-25-2004 08:21 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This happened to me once at Party, but I was the so-called "pussy" in this event. I was playing a single table tourney, only $5. Early in the tourney, I make a substantial raise, get re-raised and then called. Flop doesn't help me at all, in fact it hurt me. I think it was all the same suit, and I didn't even have one of that suit. But I make a stab at it and get re-raised all-in. I'm obviously not going to call, but I was going to ride the clock down as long as possible and make this guy sweat it out. Let him know I'm not going to fold automatically just because he moved in on me. Well, the clock still had time on it but I got "disconnected" and saw the turn and river for free. Well, he had the flush and HOLY SHIT, the table started in on me. I told them it was an accident, but nobody believd me and I felt horrible. Everybody told me it wasn't fair and that I should go all-in next hand regardless of what I had. I abliged, and went all-in very next hand....with AA Some guy calls and I double up. Well I still felt kinda bad, so when they told me I should do it again, I did. This time I had a mediocre hand Kx,Qx,Jx, I don't remember, and guess what...I flop the top set Everybody shut up after that and got off my case. But it truly was an accident -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 246 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | PokerClown Junior Member Member # 2809 Rate Member posted 03-26-2004 08:45 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yup, all-in protection cheating sucks, although I don't see it happening very often (even though I play a lot) Once it happened to me, only _I_ was the one everyone thought was cheating... The board was something like KK739 , a guy raised my bet all-in (I had K10 or something like that) .. I had an impression the guy was the tight/non-bluffing type, so my first reaction was to fold, but I had to give it some thought... I was in a good, "chatty" mood (I rarely chat, but for some reason decided to go for it now to make some excitement) ... While contemplating whether to call I said something like "hmm. full house?" .. gave it some thought and was just about to click "Fold" when I was too late and the all-in protection took over... I didn't win the pot.. (he had a full house) But I _knew_ exactly how much like a cheater I looked like.. I apologized and tried to explain, but of course noone believed me.. 5-6 people on the board called me a cheater, reported me, one of them even started lying about how they think they had seen me do the same before, etc It upset me. It ended in a pissing contest where I tried to tell them that I don't need to cheat to make money playing poker, etc.. I should just have shut up instead... Oh well. The moral of the story: Never try to make a pause and chat for "excitement"
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