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Now all that's over and here is my tentative WSOP plan: I plan on playing almost daily and spending little to no time doing media related things, outside of two early mornings on the 8th and the 9th. My plan is to basically avoid the smaller buy in events and stick to the later, 5:00pm events that are better suited for my skill set. I actually printed out a rough schedule of what I'd want to do everyday so that I don't make any overlapping mistakes, for example, not playing the two tournaments prior to the $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. Here is what I have: Jun 1: 12:00pm $5000 No Limit/Limit Hold'em Jun 2: 12:00pm $1500 No Limit Hold'em Jun 3: 5:00pm $2500 Omaha HL/Stud HL Jun 4: 5:00pm $5000 Pot Limit Omaha (RB's) Jun 5:12:00pm $1000 No Limit Hold'em (RB's) Jun 5: 5:00pm $1500 Omaha HL (if out of other event) Jun 6: 5:00pm $5000 7 Card Stud Jun 7: 12:00pm $1500 No Limit Hold'em Short Handed Jun 8: 5:00pm $5000 Pot Limit Hold'em Jun 9: 5:00pm $2500 H.O.R.S.E. Jun 10: 5:00pm $5000 Limit Hold'em Jun 11: 12:00pm $2500 No Limit Hold'em Jun 11: 5:00pm $2000 Stud H/L (if out of other event) Jun 12: 12:00pm $1500 No Limit Shootout Jun 13: 12:00pm $5000 No Limit Hold'em Jun 14: 5:00pm $3000 Stud H/L Jun 15: 5:00pm $5000 H.O.R.S.E. Jun 16: 12:00pm $1500 No Limit Hold'em Jun 17: 12:00pm $3000 No Limit Hold'em Jun 17: 5:00pm $1500 Razz (if out of other event) Jun 18: 12:00pm $2500 No Limit Hold'em Short Handed Jun 19: 1:00pm $5000 No Limit Hold'em Heads Up Jun 20: 12:00pm $1500 Pot Limit Omaha (RB's) Jun 20: 5:00pm $3000 Limit Hold'em Jun 21: 5:00pm $5000 Omaha H/L Jun 22: DAY OFF Jun 23: DAY OFF Jun 24: 12:00pm $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. Jun 25: Still in H.O.R.S.E. Jun 26: 12:00pm $2000 Limit Hold'em Jun 27: 12:00pm $2000 Omaha HL Jun 28: 12:00pm $5000 No Limit Hold'em Short Handed Jun 29: 12:00pm $2000 No Limit Hold'em Jun 29: 5:00pm $1000 2-7 Triple Draw (RB's) (If out of other event) Jun 30: 12:00pm $1500 No Limit Hold'em Jul 1: 12:00pm $10,000 Pot Limit Omaha Jul 2: 12:00pm $1000 No Limit Hold'em (RB's) Jul 3: 12:00pm $1000 Limit Hold'em Shootout Jul 4: 12:00pm $5000 2-7 Single Draw No Limit Jul 5: DAY OFF Jul 6: DAY OFF Jul 7: DAY OFF Jul 8: $10,000 No Limit Hold'em Main Event All of this is subject to change, with the exception of the fact that if you don't see a tournament on this list, there is zero chance that I will play it. I will likely skip a few of these even to avoid burn out. In addition to playing the tournaments, I won't be playing in the cash games unless I change my mind sometime between now and the end of the WSOP. It drains too much energy out of me.

I actually played at the Bellagio once this week for 8 hours and I played pretty well. I was very unlucky in triple draw not winning any real pots in that game. When you can't make a hand in triple draw in a mixed format, it usually means you are destined to have a losing session as the game plays bigger than a game like, 7 Card Stud for example. I ended up losing $95,000 and the game broke after Chan, Tuan and myself played three handed for a while. Other than that I haven't played poker much at all, and that was my intention anyway as the WSOP will be grueling. On days when I start at 5:00pm, I may decide to golf that day, or, if I play a noon even and am out early I may head to the course for a late round. I'm assuming there will be some big golf matches throughout the WSOP, but I'm so bad now that it would be difficult for me to match up with anyone as they'd have to give me a TON of strokes to make a game even remotely fair. Not only strokes, but since I don't hit the ball anywhere off the tee, I have to get a tee spot also. Who knows, we shall see... Aside from that, I won't be drinking during the WSOP. I may entertain guests one or two nights during the month, but aside from that I'll be home working out, playing pool, hanging with the wife, and mostly just relaxing in between play. I offered, and am still offering anyone a price on me winning a WSOP bracelet this year. I had several offers the first time I posted it, so here is a reminder to those interested: you can lay me 5-1 and I'll be willing to bet up to $100,000 that I'll win a bracelet in 2007. For those who don't know how that works exactly, you'd put up $500 if you lose, and win $100 if I'm unable to win a bracelet. Here's to a great WSOP in 2007, good luck to all!" Member Rated: posted 02-12-2004 11:25 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have only played at Party and feel good there. However, I keep reading posts about so many people liking PokerStars better. Can someone familiar with both sites convince me to move to Pokerstars? Why is it better? I am willing to try it but would like someone to twist my arm a little. Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 144 | From: Long Island, NY | Registered: Jun 2003 | IP: Logged | Mr_King Member Member # 1189 Rate Member posted 02-12-2004 01:09 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- you should play where you feel comfortable. I like Stars fine..as well as Paradise...and im pretty fond of JetSetPoker.....there are losts of choices out there, dont limit yourself to just 1. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 137 | From: Indiana | Registered: Oct 2002 | IP: Logged | skyking Member Member # 3035 Rate Member posted 02-12-2004 01:40 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I started playing online at Party last September. Liked it okay. Typical story. Went up by $400 in 2 days playing 2/4, without really knowing what I was doing. Then after learning how to play right, I started losing a bit. Not complaining... I really did improve my game tremendously (thanks in part to Lee Jones). I would've been headed for a major crash if I kept playing the way I started. My experience at Party was that I would grind out 100 or 200 bucks playing an hour or two each night during the week, and then dump it all in an all-night session on Friday or Saturday, and then I would repeat it the next week. Overall I lost money at Party, but I don't blame Party, their RNG, or anybody but myself. Anyway, I tried Poker Stars, and I really don't know why, but I do like it better. I was doing okay there (I was in the black by a little bit), and I just felt more comfortable there. Somehow, I was less likely to overplay there. They offered a bonus, and I put in some more money, and played 1/2 HE long enough to get my bonus. Think I was up 100 bucks before I got the bonus, so I felt pretty good. But then.... I started playing HU NL HE tournies. I guess I got addicted. For the entire month of January I played HU only. I won about 70% of the $20 games I played. Shoulda stayed right there!!!. Got crazy and moved to $50. Broke even on those. Then, after winning five $20 games in a row, decided I had "earned" the right to play a $100 HU tourney. Lost. Played another, won. Great, broke even. Another. Lost. Another. Lost. Whoa Nelly, what's going on?? Okay back to $20. Win. Win. Lose. Win. Win. Man, that was a long time for $60!!. What the heck? $200. okay. WON!! wow, I'm the greatest player alive. Next night. Same player at the $200 table. You betcha! I can do the repeat! (reality was that it was touch-n-go, and I had to fight for every inch the night b4 when I won the $200 HU). Yep, LOST. Enough $200. Back to $100. (No stupid, should've gone back to 20). Lost. Anyway, it was amazing. I was really addicted. After blowing quite a big wad at this crap, I realized that this isn't really what I want to do. I want to work on my poker game. I need to get back to the basics. Wow, sorry about the sidetrack. Yes, I like PokerStars, just don't get hooked on the HU tourneys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 106 | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | DASH7 Member Member # 2295 Rate Member posted 02-12-2004 01:43 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I haven't tried the real money tables at either party or pokerstars so I can't tell you anything about the competition differences, but the interface and graphics are at least as good as party's. There are some minor differences interface wise but they are more a matter of personal taste. At pokerstars you can choose an avatar which is pretty cool if you're into that. It looks like pokerstars has a wide variety of games and tournaments to choose from. If I had to choose between pokerstars and party, I would probably take pokerstars, but that is just based on some minor differences between the 2 sites that I prefer. Try their play games for a little bit to check out the site and see if you like the interface and graphics. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 259 | From: Denver | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged |

gooch23 Member Member # 1775 Member Rated: posted 02-12-2004 03:01 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks guys.. Skyking - that was funny. I have done the same thing with ring games. Spent a week playing 5/10 - made $1100. Had a bad night, lost maybe $150 so I decide to play 10/20 to get it back.... Lost everything in about an hour.. Dealt KQ, flop comes QKQ - I am in heaven - 3 people in the pot - every street is capped. Some bitch shows KK and I was a goner. Tough lesson learned. I should have known better. Just one of those nights. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 144 | From: Long Island, NY | Registered: Jun 2003 | IP: Logged | FatMaxx Member Member # 2792 Rate Member posted 02-12-2004 07:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gooch, that sucks!! But no reason to call her a bitch. She did have you dominated from the beginning -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 246 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | uwstud Member Member # 1645 Rate Member posted 02-12-2004 09:56 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i use to play only at party poker then switched to pokerstars. I like stars much better. I like their tournament structure better, 1500 chips vs 800 for single table tourneys. Stars also has cheap Multi Table tourneys <$5. I was in a $2 multi table tourney for practice, top place paid over $700 so thats not bad at all. They have tourneys to get you into the WSOP party has the party poker million Also they have more game options ,blind structures, if u are interested in NL holdem. At party they have 25/50/100 and so on. party's 25 has blinds of .25/.50 last i checked. Stars is .10/25. So if u r playing tight u are saving .40 cents per round. The game just seems smoother at stars imo and also more appealing to the eye. Party's tables have 10 ppl whereas Stars has 9ppl max. Stars currently is offering a bonus. I've played at party about twice as long as i have at stars. Seems to me the players are better at stars but yet i do better there. I dont even want to get into it lol. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 105 | From: madison | Registered: May 2003 | IP: Logged | brucey Member Member # 2616 Rate Member posted 02-13-2004 12:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- poker stars is superior in all aspects of online gaming except for the fact that there softer games at party and cashouts via neteller etc, are quicker...just my opinion...good luck, oh yeah, these are the only two sites i play, about 50/50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 33 | From: Wisconsin | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | Z Member Member # 2613 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 02:06 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everything is better on pokerstars. Unfortunately this also goes for your opponents, and I still have a tough time holding my own there. But you should sure give it a go and have a look around. And as they have a 20% deposit bonus running right now (which they doesn't very often) now would be a good time to give it a try. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1504 | From: Copenhagen, Denmark | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | HuskerFan Member Member # 2310 Rate Member posted 02-13-2004 03:16 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- here are my opinions...i started out a Party and did very well there...lately IMO the tables are full of maniacs...nothing wrong with playing a maniac or 2...but when 8 of the 10 are maniacs and play everything and anything its tough to overcome...your premium hands are almost always gonna get cracked...lately for me there its good day/bad day type thing and i cant get on a run....previously i had only played at pokerstars for a short time..and usually rotated between UB/empire/party....i decided to give pokerstars another chance b/c of the 20% signup they were offering....i found out that those STUPID images that people use can be blocked and i have since blocked every single one...i really think that was the biggest thing i hated about the site...were those blinking images...now its pretty basic and im happy....im actually starting to like the software very much..i love the 2 table sit and goes...ive played in 6 and ive won 3...out of the money in the other 3...i like the structure of them better than party b/c it gives patient players more time to make a move....PS also just added a HUGE slate next week for WSOP04' and WPT championship event at bellagio...tons of satellites for these...they offer everything and anything.....and the FPP are a bonus that party still doesnt offer.......i cant really talk about my overall play b/c its going on day4...im up maybe $150 total...but thats nothing to go by.......id say if anyone hasnt tried PS, to give them a shot...block the dumb images...ive never gotten a payout, but seeing how tied in they seem to be with the WPT, id venture to say, they are good for the money along with UB/party etc....im really starting to like this site..and ive always liked UB... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 164 | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | Rian Junior Member Member # 2183 Rate Member posted 02-15-2004 09:05 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've just tried pokerstars, I like it seems a little tougher over here. Finished 4th twice in a row in a couple of sit n go's. God I hate when that happens. 2 pair cracked by a flush, then K Js taken down by K 10o, but hey at least I had the best hand when I moved my money in both times. I like the fact they have $1500 to start with instead of 800 or 1000, you can take a little more time. Plus when you're all-in I like the speed the cards are dealt at, much more realistic. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 12 | Registered: Sep 2003 | IP: Logged | DirtyDirty Member Member # 1487 Member Rated: posted 02-15-2004 09:17 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pokerstars is probably the best site for tourneys...you can just about always find a multitable going, and they run sit-n-gos (including heads-up and four-player) 24 hours a day. As far as the ring games go, there are plenty enough bad players at the low limits to pay you off as well as give you some bad beats. If you're patient, you'll win out in the end. The NL tables are especially good, since so many people will buy-in for more money at these tables when they really have no business even sitting down in an NL game. I gotta agree with one of the previous posters, though...I love the 18 person sitngos, as these allow for more skilled play than a one-table sitngo. As far as cashouts go, pokerstars has always been on the ball every time I've cashed out. I have also received my items in a timely manner (within a week) every time I have redeemed my frequent player points.

And as far as those "blinking" images go, I think it's a chance for people to express their personality, have something relatively interesting to look at instead of just blankly staring at a computer screen for multiple hours of the day. If an image is annoying to me for some reason, though, I just block it out...similarly, you can block annoying chat as well. First off... been lurking here for 6 months or so... great site, lots of good information. My question is on Ax s. I love to see the flop with this, in any position and sometimes with one raise. I am mainly looking to get the nut flush or f-draw. If an Ace hits or my rag trips or 2 pair hits... then I'll play, depending on many other factors. Im not sure of the odds to get a flush flop or flush draw flop... seems like I read somewhere its 11-1? Anyway... I was reading a different post here in which advice was being given to another newbie... "Ace-rag suited is marginal and again should only be played against lots of opponents (if ever) and remember you are not playing it to hit top pair, if an ace hits the flop with no other draw for you- check and fold- you want to hit trips with the rag, straight, open-ended straight draw, flush draw, 2 pair." Now I agree with all except the "(if ever) part? Am I too fond of Ace-rag? I have no problem tossing them when the flop doesn't hit me strong. But when it does hit strong... the profit seems to make up for all the single bets to see the flop. I guess another way to analyze this is if I only saw the flop with Ax s, would this hand be profitable in the long run? Im thinking that this depends on the actual odds of flopping good as compared to the bets to see the flops that didn't flop good... Dang...more I think about it deeper I get. Guess I just askin, cause I'll try to see the flop everytime I get Ax s... Should I toss them more based on position or other? Thanks for all the advice. RoCKo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 740 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | Voter Member Member # 2877 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 02:32 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's about 7.5:1 against getting 2 or 3 of your suit on the flop. With 4 to a suit on the flop, it's about 1.9:1 against making the flush by the river. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 87 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | RoCKo Member Member # 3146 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 03:40 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks voter... 7.5:1 to get nut flush or draw on the flop. Sounds good. I knew the odds of making a flush by river and most cases (in the super-low limit games I'm in)... it's an easy call-raise situation. Any comments on position... should I be trying to see the flop with all Ax s? Thanks RoCKo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 740 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | brains Member Member # 2055 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 04:16 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by RoCKo: Im not sure of the odds to get a flush flop or flush draw flop... seems like I read somewhere its 11-1? Anyway... I was reading a different post here in which advice was being given to another newbie... "Ace-rag suited is marginal and again should only be played against lots of opponents (if ever) and remember you are not playing it to hit top pair, if an ace hits the flop with no other draw for you- check and fold- you want to hit trips with the rag, straight, open-ended straight draw, flush draw, 2 pair." RoCKo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just to clarify some of the odds: according to the stats at the back of Supersystem (I accept that these are not 100% accurate, but they are close enough): The odds of getting a flush BY THE RIVER when holding 2 suited cards preflop is around 16.3:1. The odds of flopping 2 more of the same suit are 8.14:1. The odds of flopping a flush are 118:1. I think it should be mentioned that the odds ignore the times when a pair hits the board(thus devaluing your flush) and the first statistic includes the times when only one of the suit hits the flop and runner-runner hits turn and river (you would probably not stay in). You should also factor in the times when you hit a 4-flush, but the betting is too expensive to justify a call given the pot odds. The reason I said "(if ever)" is that many players pair the ace and stay with it even though they are probably outkickered or at best will split the pot, costing bets (so they would be better not playing it in the first place). I believe 2 pair is also weaker with ace-rag as most low-limit players will play any ace (suited or unsuited) so odds of being up against a higher 2 pair are higher than with other hands. The board pairing on the turn or river will considerably weaken your hand as it will likely be an over pair to your rag-rag when you hit 2 pair. "7.5:1 to get nut flush or draw on the flop. Sounds good" - Yes it sounds good, but not when you consider the other ways the hand can cost you money. IF I play ace-rag suited, I only do it from late position (button, button-1) or small blind with at least 3 limpers and never call it with a raise-even from big blind. [ 02-13-2004, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: brains ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 381 | From: UK | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | Voter Member Member # 2877 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 04:21 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any comments on position... should I be trying to see the flop with all Ax s? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ideally with drawing hands you'll have a lot of callers and no raise. Because of this, many people limit

drawing hands to late position so they know for sure that there's enough callers, and it limits the chance of a raise behind you. Personally I usually shop around for loose passive tables, so I often play AXs from any position. Lower drawing hands, like suited connectors, I only play from late position. I want to minimize the risk of playing these in a raised pot, cause even if I hit the draw, I'm not drawing to the nuts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 87 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | brains Member Member # 2055 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 04:38 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just noticed that there was a recent discussion on the forum about Axs here http://www.thepokerforum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001742 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 381 | From: UK | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | RoCKo Member Member # 3146 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 07:18 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you all very much... Brains - thanks for clairifing what "(if ever)" means. I agree completely with your statements. I do know that a lot can go wrong with this hand... I thought you meant "if ever" see the flop. Also thanks for the link. Brains and Voter... Thank you both for your position comments. Maybe it's because of the super-low limits I'm playing at that allows me to play any position. With all the callers in anyway, it seems I always have pot odds to continue if I have 4 flush. However, I do think I will tighten up in EP-MP... don't like calling raises with this hand. Voter- Table shopping.. I agree! Hugh difference in determining playing style. Lower suited connectors just haven't found a place in my heart like my affair with Ax-s... so, yes always LP. Thanks all... RoCKo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 740 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | brains Member Member # 2055 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 07:45 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by RoCKo: Thank you all very much... Brains - thanks for clairifing what "(if ever)" means. I agree completely with your statements. I do know that a lot can go wrong with this hand... I thought you meant "if ever" see the flop. Also thanks for the link. RoCKo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think you got it right the first time, I was playing poker at the same time as typing so I dont think I was clear --- I think ace-rag is a marginal hand and therefore I personally throw it away the majority of times, even in late position with a few limpers in the pot. By "if ever" I meant that IF you play it at all you should have lots of opponents(at least 3 not counting the 2 blinds), but you can also choose to throw it away every single time if you want because you wont lose much. Hope that makes it clearer . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 381 | From: UK | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | RoCKo Member Member # 3146 Member Rated: posted 02-13-2004 10:12 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok... That is what confused me at first because of my urge to see the flop with this hand. I do agree with you though, and will adjust my play to LP w/5+ callers. Too much to drop it completely... cold turkey! Even though I'm at super low limits now (which give me pot odds on just about anything, lol), I think this is pro

bably a good habit to learn. Definately opens up the thought process. Thanks brains... This thread has certainly helped me break up with a old flame... Axs. Now just gotta find a replacement. RoCKo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 740 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | SirBetsAlot Member Member # 2661 Member Rated: posted 02-14-2004 09:36 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so in LP w/ 3+ callers i'd rather have 67s than Axs? even if i'd throw the Ax suited away if i don't get a 4 flush? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 159 | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | brains Member Member # 2055 Member Rated: posted 02-14-2004 10:33 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by SirBetsAlot: so in LP w/ 3+ callers i'd rather have 67s than Axs? even if i'd throw the Ax suited away if i don't get a 4 flush? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well I dont like 67s much either, but with 3 limpers I would be more inclined to play it than A2s-A5s because it also gives you the chance at the straight and it is easier to get away from. Personally, there would need to be 5 limpers, possibly 4, for me to call with ace-rag suited and I am check-folding anything except trips, 2-pair, open-ended straight draw (high end) and of course a flush draw. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 381 | From: UK | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | RoCKo Member Member # 3146 Member Rated: posted 02-15-2004 03:30 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok... here's the scoop from a popular low-limit book (not sure if I should give credit here) concerning A-rags suited (A9s and lower) EP: Fold MP: Call... fold to a raise in front. LP: Call... fold to a raise in front. Call raise w/ A9s if many in the pot. Concerning middle suited connectors, it was the same as above but only with 4-5 callers in front. So it seems the connectors are valued lower than the A-rags? Now, I was playing A-rags in all positions and calling some raises. Then, as brains said, "I am check-folding anything except trips, 2-pair, open-ended straight draw (high end) and of course a flush draw." I see my error in EP and will stop calling raises with it. What I like about this hand is that it is the Nut Flush! Your hoping for a lot of 2nd best hands to complete. You hope for the non-nut flush. You hope the pocket pair hits their trips... you hope the fish get their 2 pair with their pocket 72o. You hope the board dosent pair... I greatly appreciate your comments brains... seeing another view on this is very helpful. RoCKo ps... Also just read the link posted above from a previous post. Very interesting that so many play this hand so differently. [ 02-15-2004, 01:38 AM: Message edited by: RoCKo ]
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