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Or stake them in poker games. Or buy them expensive gifts. As much as I like to keep people guessing about what I am up to personally, (for the sake of getting extra hits on this site,) I can't handle the idea that people think I am that kind of sucker. I'll buy dinner. But only because I have a lot more money than them. I usually do the same for a guy. If I'm dating them I will occasionally buy the two or three hundred dollar gift. If she is living with me, I'm paying living expenses and perhaps something like online tuition if she is taking a class. And on a few occasions I've done something like pay a traffic ticket for a damsel in distress. One thing for sure though is that no woman I have been with was there mainly for money. That can be proved logically. Because any female who has the morals that would allow her to mess with a guy mainly for money would be picking other guys besides me. My poker nittiness extends to my personal life. I'm not saying that any girl I'm with is there with me soley because of my personality and linguistic rpms. I'm sure most would be gone if I was a broke nobody. But they ain't getting my cash.

Hey everyone, Today I ventured out of play money world, after 1 month of practice in the Sng's at UB where I achieved a consistent level of placing and top 100 out of 1000 in some freerolls, to the Real Money world. I went to PokerStars and with $10.00 started at the $.25/$.50 table. 1 1/2 hours later I ran dry. I ended up at -6.48/hr for the session. I have read Sklansky's books and believe I am playing too tigt, although this is his advice,(I only saw approx 10 flops of 87 hands and won 1/2 of those usually folding to an aggressive better). The problem is I would try and loosen up w/ say a K8os in late position and someone would raise so I would bail. Is this too tight, or correct play and I just didn't catch the cards my first time out. P.S. I did notice I missed about three hands when the people would show that I had them beat had I played to the river. Sorry for the long ramble -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 5 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | NIN Member Member # 2551 posted 01-29-2004 09:44 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- $10.00 at a 25c/50c = 20 big bets. I have had swings around 30-35 BB in 1 hour at live play (and I play pretty tight). Skalansky is loose. Play to his tight side. K8(o) is a crap hand (even in late position) unless you are playing short table (5 or 6 players). Even then, anything less than K9(o) is questionable. You will notice a lot of missed hands. This is the nature of the game. Don't play crap just because you see it may have one on a hand you folded. Hope this helps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2244 | From: See the warlords of a heavenly rank, and know that war is the will of god. | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | Kighr Member Member # 1946 Member Rated: posted 01-30-2004 12:25 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't watch the board after you fold...or just forget what you folded. If the board is [772--] that does not mean you should have stayed with your 72o. That is a bad habit to get into. And fine a few different starting hand guidelines...try them all, then develop one you like from them. Don't just read Sklansky...also 10/87 is pretty tight, but if you're calling with K8o it's hard to believe you're seeing that few flops... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 57 | From: Alabama | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | en Junior Member Member # 2833 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 10:53 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the replies. I didn't mean to say I always called w/ K8os. I only played it once as practice to loosening up some since I was seeing so few flops. So the swings can be this low I suppose is the main lesson learned. Do you leave tables when you don't hit for an hour and a half, or just stay at the table your on and ride the swing out? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 5 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | racer23 Member Member # 2659 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 09:28 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the game is generally tight passive then I'll leave, you aren't going to make much at those types of games, and can lose alot if you start making dumb bets just to recoup your losses. In fact, even if I'm even or just barely ahead, I'll usually look to escape a tight passive game. If there is a fish or more at the table and the reason I'm losing is because I took some bad beats, then I'll definitely stay...because those "bad wins" encourage the fish to flop around more, and my advantaged play will win eventually. In other words, if the type of play at the table favors you, then stay. If not, there are dozens of other games to pick from. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 362 | From: St. Louis | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | Cardster Member Member # 1543 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 10:39 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let me just say. Buying and reading all the poker books in the world isn't going to make you a great player. What makes you are great player is time and experience. It's gonna cost you $$$ to learn how to play poker. Doing your learning process you will develop your own style of play. Some people says only play high cards. Some says not to play X and X off suit. Well some people play and do pretty well playing their own style. While others are trashing winning hands preflop because some guy wrote a book and say to fold it. Its gonna cost you much $$$ to develop a level of play that you will be happy with. Goodluck -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 105 | Registered: Apr 2003 | IP: Logged |

Voter Member Member # 2877 Member Rated: posted 02-02-2004 09:21 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The .25/.50 tables at Pokerstars are usually tighter than the .50/$1 tables at Party. FWIW I'm down $45 at Stars, up $235 at Party. And get Lee Jones' book, it's specifically for low limits. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 87 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | racquet000 Junior Member Member # 3042 Rate Member posted 02-03-2004 10:53 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ive sat at the casino for 2 hours and folded and folded and folded, There was only one hand that i would have one had a stayed in the whole time talk about run of bad cards.....lol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1 | From: Binghamton, NY | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged | Z Member Member # 2613 Member Rated: posted 02-04-2004 04:30 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10$ isn't much, not even at the penny tables, and the way you describe your play doesn't sound too bad. Regarding startong hands this system is a good for starters Another good advice is that you make a monthly budget for your poker education. Go back to the play money tables when bust, and start up again when the next pay chack arrives. Take some good notes on your game, and in time you'll get to a point where you'll be able to consistently beat those low limit games. It doesn't sound like you're too far off. Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 05:38 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- im begging someone if they can loan me some money im in a bind... like 20 or so dollars would help on my poker account if you could transfer it... plzzzzzz its very important..... my pokerstars name is : BeeLeaveIt party poker: Gartman22 plz this is important i will PAY U BACk i promise im sure youve heard it before but i really need this... if theres someone wiyth a soft heart i would so be grateful -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 05:50 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- id prefer pokerstars cause my party poker isnt loading for somereason and its a minimum of 50$ plz guys i really need some help -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | wasntme Member Member # 2436 Member Rated: posted 01-30-2004 06:05 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- these type of post really crack me up. you sound like an addicted gambler. u need $20 whole bucks. what are u gonna strike it rich with $20. dude, go ask your mommy or daddy for some money. no one here cares. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 430 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 06:12 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- for your information, yes 20 dollars can help... its people like you who dont have any values.. im asking for a favor, i have leant my friends money all the time when we go to casinos or halls, im in a bind, and im asking for some help if youn cant do it then no problem.... but i dont expect morons like you to put in there worthless comments, i wish i could even begin to explain the mess im in, but you only care about yourself -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | Lynx4Ben Member Member # 2492 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 06:39 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We couldn't believe the mess you are in. Yet 20 bucks will get you out of it. LOL! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 42 | From: DNE | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 06:41 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- something affordable i can pay back pretty easily,,, u know what i mean..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | Lynx4Ben Member Member # 2492 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 06:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian, how about 75 in your situation i think you could use a little more. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 42 | From: DNE | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | wasntme Member Member # 2436 Member Rated: posted 01-30-2004 06:58 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Original

ly posted by brian: im asking for a favor, i have leant my friends money all the time when we go to casinos or halls -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wake up buddy. this is cyber world, we might be "bros", but not the type to let u borrow money. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 430 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | wasntme Member Member # 2436 Member Rated: posted 01-30-2004 06:59 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and brian, actually im up for a good story. tell us the bind your in, and how you can turn $20 bucks into grands. it might help yur cause -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 430 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 07:07 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hey wasnt me whats your aol screen name ill tell ya -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | Lynx4Ben Member Member # 2492 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 07:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why don't you post your sad story here. Maybe after we hear more people will be offering you 75 like me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 42 | From: DNE | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 07:12 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lynx its not a sad story im asking for some help and i will repay........ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | pokerhead Member Member # 2794 Member Rated: posted 01-30-2004 07:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- why dont you just sell some plasma? ez $20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 148 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 07:14 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i would appreciate it i dotn wanna beg or have to prove my story but all i can say please i need some help.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 07:15 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lol poker that would be ez, but i ruined my credit when i was in college i onyl have access to epassporte and my bank account is welll ... you know..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | robpoker2003 Member Member # 2813 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 08:27 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You want 20 bucks. Work for it the old-fashioned way, go wash cars or set up a lemonade stand, or shovel snow. Nobody wants to loan money blindly over the internet, I feel for you if you had a bad beat but borrow money from someone who you come in physical contact with and trusts you to pay them back. By the way I was thinking about it and if you were a jackass and wanted a bankroll for nothing you could borrow $20 from one person on all the poker forums and sites across the web and then youd be set. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1598 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | onehandfold Member Member # 1458 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 08:33 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by brian: lol poker that would be ez, but i ruined my credit when i was in college i onyl have access to epassporte and my bank account is welll ... you know..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Best advice ever: Dont play with money you dont have. Anyway, save it up for live game action. Online action is rough, especially if you dont have the bank for it. And if youre not of age, its better off for you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 331 | Registered: Feb 2003 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 08:33 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i dont wanna be a jackass... i just need some help, i was just asking doesnt hurt if there was someone on here that could help me out.... id do the same for others and have if the circumstances reversed.... 2 weeks ago i did borrow money from a random stranger his anme was kingrenardo from poker stars and i payed him back 20%..... i just need some immediate help, so i wwas asking.. thanks rob for thinking about it. no i dont wanan waste my time scamming someone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005

Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 08:35 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- onehandfold i hear ya -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | Wavey Member Member # 1307 Rate Member posted 01-30-2004 09:22 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You said you'd lent friends money in the past.... why not ask one of them to return the favour? If they won't, they can't be decent friends. I was in Vegas recently, and my friend was approached by a guy who said "I need $20 for my flight home.... I have the rest, just need $20". Yeah, right. Go get a job... like someone else said, wash a few cars, or something, and you'll have double what you need in less time than you've waited for it here. W. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 958 | Registered: Dec 2002 | IP: Logged | brian Member Member # 3005 Rate Member posted 01-31-2004 12:23 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- all you need is a chip and a chair... and by the way remeber what comes around goes around, if i had 50 dollars and someone needed it id loan them at least half of it... you guys are pretty selfish or you obviously have no clue what its like to struggle for a bit... man id hate to see you hit rock bottom and if you dont youll just be miserable, lifes about sharing.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | bilo Member Member # 2505 Member Rated: posted 01-31-2004 11:29 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by brian: lol poker that would be ez, but i ruined my credit when i was in college i onyl have access to epassporte and my bank account is welll ... you know..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You weren't responsible enough to pay your debts before, you don't have $20 in your bank account, and you want us to believe that you are going to pay back?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 809 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | ProAMP Member Member # 2497 Member Rated: posted 01-31-2004 01:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hit a bad run of cards, anyone want to loan me about a grand? I'll pay you back! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 158 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | hookem Member Member # 2286 Rate Member posted 01-31-2004 01:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think this is a joke. Come on... how can 20 in a online account help anyone..........whats he gunna do turn it into 25 or 30 big deal. .........come on tell us the truth........ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 74 | From: gladstone oregon | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | Voter Member Member # 2877 Member Rated: posted 01-31-2004 04:31 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check your Party account. Since you want $20 and the minimum transfer is $50, I sent $70. Please send the $50 back for now, and the $20 when you can afford it. Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 87 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | brains Member Member # 2055 Member Rated: posted 01-31-2004 09:26 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Voter: Check your Party account. Since you want $20 and the minimum transfer is $50, I sent $70. Please send the $50 back for now, and the $20 when you can afford it. Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey Brian, could I borrow $10 of that? I have also found myself in a real bind and $10 would mean I could keep my business, my house and my car. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 381 | From: UK | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | Lynx4Ben Member Member # 2492 Rate Member posted 01-31-2004 09:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OMG did somone really give him money? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 42 | From: DNE | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | Voter Member Member # 2877 Member Rated: posted 02-02-2004 08:52 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by L

ynx4Ben: OMG did somone really give him money? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hehe. Wonder if he really went and checked his account! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 87 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | strangeman Junior Member Member # 2618 Rate Member posted 02-02-2004 10:33 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've seen several people on PS come into a table as a observer and hit up the top dollar man for a buck or two. Just bug the $hit out of him til someone gives the guy a buck so he will shut up. The quality and depth of the sob stories are almost worth the loan! :-) have played at 1/2 at party and had trouble consistently winning so I moved down to .50/1 where a lot more people call with garbage hands and such. I've seemed to notice that people can't really be bluffed at either of these limits. I've tried a couple of times but usually I just play tight and wait for hands. So the question is, "Is it worth it to try and bluff pots in LL Holdem?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 8 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | gravedggerDMB Member Member # 2486 Rate Member posted 01-12-2004 04:05 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i say no. i play low limit and its hard for me to bluff out otehr opponents, the stakes just arent high enough. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 134 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | Kighr Member Member # 1946 Member Rated: posted 01-12-2004 04:10 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I once capped a pre-flop bet at $2 on a .50/1 and I ended p losing to a straight on the river to a person with 85o. No way you can bluff the tables... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 57 | From: Alabama | Registered: Aug 2003 | IP: Logged | gravedggerDMB Member Member # 2486 Rate Member posted 01-12-2004 04:20 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ud think people cap with AA KK QQ AKs, but no, its 85suited, J2, shit like that stick with the hands that win, dont bother bluffing unless ur sure the otehr person has poo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 134 | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | Mayfield Junior Member Member # 2824 Rate Member posted 01-13-2004 04:19 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been able to bluff a couple of times. The trick is to know when to do it. In LL if some one already has a bet on the table they are usualy are not going to fold, they will take there chances call an over bet for a buck. If A comes on the flop and no one bets in front of you, bet at it. If no one reraises keep betting at it on the turn if a straight or flush draw or pairs does not come up. I have had alot of people drop out after the turn card in this situation. I would suggest bluffing only in the very late possition with few callers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 8 | From: Iowa | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | Siohmy Member Member # 2356 Member Rated: posted 01-13-2004 04:34 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd say for the most part, no chance, although you do occassionaly come across tight 1/2 tables where it may work. Just be a bit more selective with you hand selection and bet them for value. Straight and flush draws almost always provide good odds at this level. I'll give you a good example of the nightmares that can occur if you do try to bluff those who really have no idea what's going on! Game #92342182 - Texas Hold'em

Table "Cyprus", £1/£2, Buy-in Amount £10 Seat 8 is the button. Seat 1 : ALPINE £16.75 Seat 2 : Eggynug £66.75 Seat 3 : Bongoman £50 Seat 4 : toker £115 Seat 5 : Siohmy £11.25 (This is you.) Seat 6 : Debo15021 £7.50 Seat 8 : Stonechat £50.25 Seat 10: Minefield £57 Minefield Post Small Blind £0.50 ALPINE Post Big Blind £1 Dealing Cards... Dealt to Siohmy 10D Dealt to Siohmy QD Eggynug Call £1 Bongoman Fold toker Call £1 Siohmy Raise £2 Debo15021 Fold Stonechat Fold Minefield Fold ALPINE Fold Eggynug Call £1 toker Call £1 Dealer Collect Bets... Pots £7.25; Rake £0.25. Dealing Flop: 7H,JS,2D Eggynug Check toker Check Siohmy Bet £1 Eggynug Call £1 toker Raise £2 Siohmy Raise £2 Eggynug Call £2 toker Call £1 Dealer Collect Bets... Pots £15.75; Rake £0.75. Dealing Turn: 2S Eggynug Check toker Check Siohmy Bet £2 Eggynug Fold toker Call £2 Dealer Collect Bets... Pots £19.50; Rake £1. Dealing River: 6D toker Check Siohmy Bet £2 toker Call £2 Dealer Collect Bets... Pots £23.50; Rake £1. Siohmy Show losing cards: 10D,QD toker Show winning cards: 10H,6H Result: Board: 7H,JS,2D,2S,6D Pot 1: £23.50, Rake: £1 toker wins £23.50 with Two Pairs, Sixes and Twos, Jack high (6D,6H,2D,2S,JS) Summary: ALPINE lost £1, Final table stake is £15.75. Eggynug lost £5, Final table stake is £61.75. toker bet £9, collected £23.50, net won £14.50. Final table stake is £129.50. Siohmy lost £9, Final table stake is £2.25. Minefield lost £0.50, Final table stake is £56.50. Now I thought as he called me to the river, "OK, got caught this time, was taking a chance anyway, nearly paid off." You can imagine how far my jaw fell when he turned over his cards! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 912 | From: NYC | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | MajorCP Moderator Member # 2277 Member Rated: posted 01-13-2004 10:28 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rarely. Why bother when you can win a lot of money waiting for other people to bluff/overplay their hands against your legitimate good hands? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1500 | From: Phoenix AZ USA | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged | gliam Member Member # 2501

Member Rated: posted 01-13-2004 03:42 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by theluckydraw: "Is it worth it to try and bluff pots in LL Holdem?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- no -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 34 | From: AK | Registered: Nov 2003 | IP: Logged | Z Member Member # 2613 Member Rated: posted 01-13-2004 04:08 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Recently I was playing 0.5-1 showing one of my buddies how it's done. To my amazement I managed to bluff around 2 pot per hour which added substantial to my win rate compared to his. The trick is that most no foldem players will hang on in there with any piece of the board. But sometimes all 7 players taking the flop actually fail to connect with the flop, and on those rare occations the pot is there for the taking. The cute thing about this type of situation is that you get really good odds on your bluffs. But apart from this situation I can't think of a situation where a bluff is worth a try. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1467 | From: Copenhagen, Denmark | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | CTBob Member Member # 2546 posted 01-13-2004 04:31 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 99% of the time the answer is no, but that other 1% of the time, if you pick your spots, you can get away with it. It really depends on your opponents and your table image. I was playing 2-4 at Foxwoods and I had a couple of calling stations at my table who played every hand. I swear one of the guys called pre-flop a few times before he even looked at his cards. There were a couple of other guys at the table who gave me an impression that they knew a little bit about how the game was played, and they were what I would consider semi-tight. I had been winning some good pots, surprisingly a few where I didn't have to show down. I also had the biggest stack of chips. In one particular hand I was on the BB with a garbage hand. There were very few callers, and this happened to be a rare hand where all the calling stations folded. I saw my opportunity and stone-cold bluff raised on the BB. The flop came down ragged with an ace sticking out like a sore thumb among two low cards. I bet the flop and took the pot right there. Had the tables calling stations played this hand, I never would have tried this move. I have also noticed that some loose players will begin to tighten up when they are on the short stack. If you notice these types of players, you might try bluffing them once in a while. Most of the time though, it's just straight up poker. Bluffing works in ANY poker game, you just have to, as Sklansky put it, bluff with the correct frequency. If you bluff too much, you will have a negative expectation. If you bluff too little, you may still be a winner, but you won't get that extra edge from bluffing with the correct frequency. The correct frequency to bluff is really a judgment call you have to make. It comes down to how often you think you can get your opponents to fold. In a tight game obviously, you will be able to pull it off more often than a loose game. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2627 | From: Ansonia,CT,USA | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | GarySJFL Moderator Member # 1342 Member Rated: posted 01-13-2004 08:39 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (erased own comments) [ 01-23-2004, 12:26 AM: Message edited by: GarySJFL ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1931 | From: south Florida | Registered: Dec 2002 | IP: Logged | strangeman Junior Member Member # 2618 Rate Member posted 01-14-2004 11:39 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by theluckydraw: I have played at 1/2 at party and had trouble consistently winning so I moved down to .50/1 where a lot more people call with garbage hands and such. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try no limit .50/1!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 24 | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | Voter Member Member # 2877 Member Rated: posted 01-19-2004 01:49 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Short answer: NO. But sometimes you can. I'll consider it when I raised preflop, and I'm either first or last to act. Preferably first. Some players are suspicious of a bluff from late position, but figure if you're betting first you must have something. Note that you need a tight image (if anyone's even paying attention), and that one bet usually won't do it. You've got to be prepared to bet without hesitation right down to the river. If you can't cut it to one (or sometimes two) opponents by the river, forget it. Someone will call. Maybe some consider this a semibluff, since you probably have overcards. [ 01-19-2004, 11:50 AM: Message edited by: Voter ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 87 | Registered: Jan 2004 | IP: Logged | Mr. Nuts Member Member # 1239 Rate Member posted 01-24-2004 12:55 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trying to bluff at low limit holdem compares to pissing against the wind! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 741 | From: Marshall,Tx. Harrison | Registered: Nov 2002 | IP: Logged | CTBob Member Member # 2546 posted 01-26-2004 02:13 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A simple example: 2-4 Hold'em. You are first to act, and have one opponent. Without knowing too much about your opponent you figure if you bet, your opponent will do one of two things-play the hand either by calling, or raising, or fold. Let's say you have a busted draw hand. If your opponent calls, you are most likely beat. If your opponent raises, you must fold. Sometimes he will have nothing as well and simply fold. Other times he will have a hand, but believe you made your draw and fold. For the sake of argument, we will say that if you bet the hand every time, 50% of the time your opponent will fold. In order to make this move profitable, you must be getting at least 2:1 pot odds. So if there's at least $8 in the pot, it's worth bluffing at it. However, say you still have the one opponent and the pot was $40 or more. In this case, a bluff might not work at all. Even if your opponent feels he may be beat, he will most likely call one more bet seeing how the pot is laying him at least 10:1 on the end heads-up. The big pot makes it worth it for him to "keep you honest". Now consider two opponents. You can bluff each one out 50% of the time, but both will fold only 25% of the time. So now the pot must be giving you 4:1 in order to make a bluff profitable. The larger number of opponents you have, the less chance of success you will have at bluffing. With four opponents, you need pot odds of at least 16:1 (or $64 in the pot) to even consider attempting a bluff. However, just as one opponent in a large pot, as the pot grows, your chances of bluffing people out becomes less than 50%/person. Most players in low-limit will call one more bet on the river because in their minds, they have invested so much into the hand already that one more bet is worth it. To some of these opponents, it will be the mathematically correct thing to do, even though they don't realize it. In summary: Don't bluff at medium sized pots. Only bluff a large number of callers if the pot is huge (significant pot odds), but don't expect it to work in low-limit. Bluff one or two opponents for a small pot-this works the best for me in low limit games.
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