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So i spent the past week or so in vegas and witnessed the followoing juicy tidbits. but before i begin, let me just say that im not the type of person to go behind peoples backs and gossip or give names or anything, so please dont ask for any more specifics than i give you here...
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was at bellagio railing a 50/100NL game that this young pimply kid was just destroying - had a MASSIVE stack and coverd everyone. some creepy older bearded dude with glasses seemed to be losing every single pot they played HU, and was getting pretty irritated/tilty when this hand came up:
kid raised PF fom MP, old dude 3bet in CO, kid 4 bet, old dude 5 bet half his stack, kid pushed.
Flop - 4 6 K rainbow and old creepy dude says "got you this time kid. top set".
Turn - J
River - T
old dude flips KK and starts raking in the $80K+ pot.
then kid says "uhhhh, not so fast old man. i think thats MY money you're counting."
turns over AQo and the table goes crazy.
me - "who tf is this guy?!?!"
the rail - "like ZOMG dont you you KNOW??? its teh grimstarrrrrr!!"
me - "but hows he playing, isnt he only like-"
and im cut off in mid sentence because the old guy had called the floor and now security was rushing the table demanding an ID, etc etc. confiicated the kids stack and dragged him to the back room. aparently old guy got tired of losing and asked them to check id.
kid - "omg, youre a huge D-bag you piece of #($@!!! F you blah blah
old creepy dude - "sorry, but what are you really gonna do about it?"
as this fiasco is ending a really cute, early 20's (albeit batsht crazy sounding), brunette comes over to the table carrying a bag and says to old creepy dude:
"David, about ready? Isnt it time for todays poker lesson?"
So he gets up and as theyre walking through the lobby the girl trips and drops her bag. Out falls a bottle of champagne, a tub of strawberries, a can of whip cream, and a box of Magnum XL's (ya I know i said i wouldnt name names but com'on DS, everyone knows who you are)
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was near the ladies bathroom next to Pure inside caesers (cuz everyone knows the best place to pick up the drunkest girls coming out of the club is by snagging em on the way to the bathroom) and overheard this convo between 2 broads who just walked out:
girl A - "wow cant believe how tore up that clownie chick was... talk about a line!"
girl B - "ya, isnt she like a professional poker player or something?"
girl A - "ya think so, but i dont know how the hell she can concentrate on cards after [censored] with the white girl..."
and i had no idea clownie was a lesbian
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watched a really cool 21ish year old kid play some tourneys. he had the illest jewfro ive ever seen and calmly said "I go all in" like every other hand.
he entered 6 events and made 7 final tables
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went to teh Wynn to hit up club Tryst one night adn ran into these 2 goofballs. overheard them bragging to each other abut how cool/rich/pimp the were.
- Dbag A - "man i can pull any girl in here"
- Dbag B - "hah, now way! but *I* can! Im the sickest, dopest, illest, best, looking guy here. And i rich cuz i made the most money form poker eva!"
- Dbag A - "ya right man, now what girls gonna believe that!! i mean you cant even show anyone a graph or anything to prove it you donk!!"
- Dbag B - shut up donk-to-see-you! not friends anymore!
they then proceed to approach, and immediately get shot down by 6 different groups of girls. they finally manage to strike up a convo with 2 really hot looking broads. they mustve struck up some kind of deal because the guys each handed over fistfuls of cash to the girls. some sort of downpayment i think. anyway theyre walking out when none other than Go- i mean Antonious himself comes strolling in. the girls immediately rush up to him and stuff all the money in his pockets, begging PA to take them back to his room. He politely declines and waits for a higher offer.
Dbag A and Dbag B are repotedly seen snuggling up in a vip booth at Thunder From Down Under later that night.
i was walking the strip with my buddies when a pack of young guys comes by screaming "SHIP IT! HOLLA! SHIP IT! HOLLA HOLLA HOLLA HOLLA!!! over and over.
well, the rumors are true.
Durrrrrr gets way hotter guys than Raptor. (oops my bad naming names again, i know i know. but really, who else could this possibly be??
(and sorry Raptor, i know it must be tough living in the shadow. i always pictured you as a little tiny dude with big teeth, short stumpy arms, and beady little eyes. but fwiw youre actually pretty normal looking! whoda thunk it?)
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young kid was cruisng the strip in a siiick black '05 Bentley Continental Coupe GT with a smoking hot blonde in the pasenger seat. pulled up to the drive at caeser's and hopped out.
the valet was a total prick and was like "whoah [censored], you cant park HERE!! cant you READ?!?!?"
the kid was really nice though. super calm and polite about it.
he just reached in his pocket and pulled out the fattest roll ive ever sen in my life and said "okay, ill just buy the place then.
and actually bought it.
its now called Cole's Palace.
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so there you have it. all the latest and greatest straight outta vegas!
but please, dont ask for names.
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the title of this thread states it all. after having a great month last month, and the first two weeks of december were great. but now all of a sudden, i cant play properly. i have no discipline.
it seems when i first sit at a table, i get up pretty good, take a few good pots, and then the all of a sudden my game goes to hell.
im playing too many bad hands, and playing out of position. im bluffing and getting no repsect, yet im still capping the pot, or sometimes im folding the winning hand too early. my game has just gone to hell. ive read books and the forums. but they dont really talk about when a poker player loses his mind. i guess its tilting.
overall im still up playing at PP. but last night was bad for my standards. for example. i was playing $2-4 and some $3-6. i build my bankroll up to $450 from $100 deposit. took me about a week to slowly build it up. ive had a few big winning sessions. for example i won $200 in 15 mins $3-6. the rest was just slowly building my bankroll, thru $10 sit n gos, and 2-4 games.
last night its late as hell, i just got home from working midnight shift. i was tired. yet i still play poker. so i go sit at 2-4 table with $100. lose it slowly, im chasing draws and losing with high pair type situations. next thing you know im argueing with a another player on chat. i never do this type of thing. i lose my bankroll. i get another $100. i lose trips to 5 7 suited flush draws on river, and other crazy shit. i had many bad beats in a row. now im down $200. i told myself, leave it alone, this is not my day. but i cant leave.
i do something i never do, i go to $100 NL.im in desperation/ tilt mode. i was in bb with kk. 3 people bet $15 in front of me, so i go all in for $90. i get one call. hes holding QQ. he hits his set on turn, im down another $100. needless to say i went back to $3-6 to "gamble". so i lost my whole bankroll.
the problem is that i was out of control and i played very uncharacteristic and it seems my destiny was to lose money before this session even started. i forgot to mention that my gf and i had a huge argument earlier. my question to you good bros is how come i wanted to lose it all? why did i continue to "gamble", instead of play poker? i have been playing tight /agressive for last two months, and last night was not my game, i dont know what happened. anyone of you been there before? im not really worried about the money, im more interested as to why this type of event occured. thanks for any advice , tips, encouragment or even scolding. thanks.
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i forgot to mention i was seeing the flop like 50% of the time last night! im usually very tight and see low percentage of flops. but last night Q 9 suited looked powerful to me, i would cap it out preflop. its like i was tilting, yet for some odd reasons, i was enjoying it, hmmm.
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Masochism, sir, pure and simple...get yourself some therapy...
Just chalk it up to stupid frustration. I've had many a night like that. Take an extended break from poker to cool the jets and analyze what has gone wrong. You've touched on the tactical errors you were making (e.g., seeing too high a percentage of flops), now it's time to look at some of the emotional factors that lead you to tilt. Identify them, then tape an index card to your computer that forbids you to play when you are tilting. I don't know for sure, but I think that Anthony Holden's book "Big Deal: One Year in the Life of a Professional Poker" has a part where he lists four or five excellent questions to ask yourself before sitting down to play. Find these, and make sure you rehearse them well. It's easier not to even get involved in playing poker when you're primed for tilt than it is to get up from the table while tilting...however, tilt is just about inevitable, so learn to deal more effectively with it. Take the little lady out for dinner and a movie...your emotional health, your bankroll, your romantic relationship, and your libido will all thank you for it.
"Just one man's opinion."
-DirtyDirty-
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I thought the crackheaded play at Party made me tilt, I guess not. You probably need a break. I would suggest take the rest of the year, and just play moderate hours. Or try and switch your time of play. The late night EST games at Party 2/4,3/6 are ultra-aggressive and loose at the same time and it's easy to tilt against guys who quad A rag off pre-flop and chase it down.
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If you go to a bingo hall, you will see scores of people enjoying themselves with a negative expectation. It's not unusual at all to enjoy the gambling aspect of poker. Most of our opponents do and sometimes even win for the night, week or month.
The challenge is turning and keeping the emotions off. There will be nights when fate seems to be trying to deal you a death blow and you will be literally punch-drunk from bad beats. Other nights you will be ahead early and get caught up in the "action" by playing much too loose. You have to know yourself and how you react. That way you can prepare...(Ok..I'm way ahead..this is when I usually start to play bad...or I just lost 30 big bets, this is when I start to push unimproved AK to the river). Our edge is too small for our emotions to have say in our game.
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thanks for the replies. this really helps, its kinda therapeutic. in my 3 months of playing, 2 winning months, i have had one other night like this, when i basically tried to lose. and i played GREAT poker after that episode. so i think i will take a few days off, and try to spend time with family. and then ill start off slow and get reestablished.
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I would agree with the other posters that you should give yourself a break from playing, even if just for a couple of days.
Also, if you are prone to going maniac like this, I would recommend you set yourself a strict stop loss amount for a session and stick to it eg. 25 bb.
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Going through the same thing wasntme. Yesterday was extremely tough. I went almost an hour and only paired one card on the flop. I was trying to mix it up as well but did not get so much as a drawing hand. The plus side I guess is that I could easily throw the hands away but it is annoying when you get good hands AK, AQ, KK, QQ, busted over and over again and I also have been playing poorly as a result.
I am going to stop playing over Christmas and re-focus in the new year personally.
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Obviously you lost the $ because you were too loose, chased a lot of hands, played marginal hands. Even a blind man can see that. But the question you gotta ask yourself is why did you play like that not why did you lose the $.
You gotta learn (and so do I ) not to play cards when you are so emotionally vulnerable. Tired from work? Big argument with the woman? Come on, that's recipe for super-loose play! Stay away from the table on those occasions.
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A poker book once said to ask yourself one honest question before you play.... Am i going to win???? If the answer was not YES then pass.
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I thought it was just me,lol. Same exact thing last nite. I play $25 NL at Party. Normally a tight/aggressive player. Very disciplined (too much probably). Was going along playing maybe 20% of the hands max and up just a hair when got beat at the river in a nice pot and for some reason bingo, i go on tilt.
Lost $100 in a couple of hours. No big deal but just bothered me all day. I have decided not to play till first of the year. This is saying alot for me since i play about 4-5 hrs per day during wk and 8-10 on wkends.
Normally this would not put me on tilt but for some reason did last nite.
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nyway, i feel your pain.
One thing i know though. I WILL get that $100 back.
Happy Holidays guys. this is a great forum.
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I had the opposite trouble as a newbie at party poker and paradise - tables full of maniacs! I found pokerstars and some European sites a lot less mad, and stuck to limit games a lot.
If you want to get out of maniac mode maybe do it in cheap SnG's - set yourself some tight-play rules and head off to the Party Poket $5 SnG's - if you can keep your head without going on full maniac tilt in there you can keep it anywhere
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wasntme
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once again thanks for advice and support. i just want everyone to know that my game is back on track. i took a few days off over the holidays. and it did me a world of good. i have my discipline back, and the main thing is im making money again.
one thing i learned from this is that there are going to be times when the cards just arent falling for you at all. either you are dealt bad beats, or you simply cant win with AK suited all night long. when this is the case, you cant get emotionally involved, just realize this is part of the game. so basically what im saying is that when you are in a drought try to minimize your losses by going to a different game or take time off. but never get MANIACAL.
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I would like opinions,analysis of this hand i played.
Its the final 2 tables of a 20$ nl hold'em tourney with 365 players,top 14 left 7 per table , blinds 1500/3000 , all players are tight ,good ones. i am delt KK one seat righ of button(excellent position for KK).UTG folds , UTG+1 raises 12000 ,he has the big stack at the table(42k) and has not played much since comming over from the broken up 3rd table) another player fold and then the player before me thinks for 5 secs then goes all in for 17K it comes back to me now i have 35K and have the second biggest stack with 15K more than anybody else but 10K less then the big stack.
I'm afraid utg+1 has aces but not 100% sure ,if i call and win i am big stack for tourney and have a good shot at a top prize .if i fold i have 35k and have lots of respect at table so i can keep building my stack the way i have been doing by stealing the blinds) i decide to fold deciding i have a good enought chance to win the tourney without that pot or the risk of going broke against the only guy at my table that can bust me. should i have called??end result utg+1 has 55 and the other all in player has QQ.
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I'm no expert, but it seems your decision was not faulty at all. End stages of tourneys I think it's more about not losing your stack than it is about going after the pot. In fact, I've read that there can be a valid argument for laying down AA pre-flop in a tourney depending on the situation.
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I might have folded QQ or less in your situation....but I most likely would have called with KK. Folding it however is not a bad move. If you call, you have no options post flop. Again, tough decision and I wouldn't say either way is definitely the correct move. Given various situation and circumstances, I would probably fold that situation about 10% of the time. FYI, I have folded KK preflop in a tournament before. 2 years ago at the WPF.
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I'd say go all-in here. There's so much money in the top three at these types of tournaments at party.
I don't think the UGT+1 has aces, because i don't think people play this strong late in the tourney with aces. Most of the time they'll pick up the blinds with a play like that, and i dont think he'll do it.
The next guy raises all-in. He's a little short-stacked and probably doesn't want to have to make a decision on the flop. I'd say the most likely hands for this are TT-QQ, and maybe AK. He could have AK, but you won't get knocked out if he does.
I say shove all-in here. Put the pressure on the UTG+1 to call you down. I'm guess he had something like AQs, AJs, or a medium pair. He's the big stack, and most big stacks like to bully.
I'd go all-in. Getting in the top 3 in these tournaments is so much better than the 5th-9th money it seems like you're playing for.
but i don't claim to be a be all end all tournament master at all.
scott
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oh lol, i actually skipped the "results" line of your response. so, my advice is genuine.... hahaha.
scott
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I actually misread the stack sizes of your opponents. While again, folding won't kill you....I would have pushed all in and made the UTG+1 make a decision. I thought the big stack went all in after the smaller stack.
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Getting dealt pocket Kings at that stage of tourney (with the big blind at 3000) I would definately call, and depeneding on texture of game possibly go all-in.
Calling would have left you approx. 13k, approx. x4 BB, not much to play with but at least you have slim chance of doubling through a couple of times.
UTG pushing 1200 on pocket fives was in my opinion not a smart play, well out of position.
I had a similar situation, final 4 of PokerStars SNG I get dealt King King in late position. UTG folds, next player goes all-in (approx. same stack as me), next player folds, I call. We show, he has Queen Queen. I'm in good shape I think.
Flop brings a Queen (not good), turn is a King (hurrah for me), river is a.......Queen! Lost to quad Queens. Bombed out in 4th, just outside the money.
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I'm no proffessional, but I really don't understand what there is to think about. If the correct decision is not going all-in then I'm giving up.
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Originally posted by seloupass:
I would like opinions,analysis of this hand i played.
Its the final 2 tables of a 20$ nl hold'em tourney with 365 players,top 14 left 7 per table , blinds 1500/3000 , all players are tight ,good ones. i am delt KK one seat righ of button(excellent position for KK).UTG folds , UTG+1 raises 12000 ,he has the big stack at the table(42k) and has not played much since comming over from the broken up 3rd table) another player fold and then the player before me thinks for 5 secs then goes all in for 17K it comes back to me now i have 35K and have the second biggest stack with 15K more than anybody else but 10K less then the big stack.
I'm afraid utg+1 has aces but not 100% sure ,if i call and win i am big stack for tourney and have a good shot at a top prize .if i fold i have 35k and have lots of respect at table so i can keep building my stack the way i have been doing by stealing the blinds) i decide to fold deciding i have a good enought chance to win the tourney without that pot or the risk of going broke against the only guy at my table that can bust me. should i have called??end result utg+1 has 55 and the other all in player has QQ.
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You've got the 2nd best hand in hold'em. His raise, even if he's super-tight, can be AA, AK, KK, QQ, JJ. You're ahead of 15/21 of the card combinations he can hold. If you can't attack here, give up the game.
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According to your description, i believe the right move was to go all-in. The opportunity to get your chips in with such a strong hand is all you can ask for. Playing not to lose is a mistake that i believe is made by alot of players.
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Ah.. to play against the chip leader or to make your stand? I like the all in. The chip leader will be hard pressed to call here and you get heads up with $18,000 left. If I had fewer chips and could not have a real chance of getting heads up I would muck.
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I don't fault you for not attacking as the previous reply stated. I happen to hate KK, because as powerful as they are they tend to be trouble for me, regardless of how I play them. I'd rather have QQ just for "luck" since QQ, J5 (suit or offsuit), and 44 tend to favor me
Once in a wild $3-6 game at a B&M a player raised blind from early position, and had plenty of callers since he was playing blind for the action. I really enjoy those wild games when I'm having a good night and I made it 3 bets blind, original raiser capped it and we had a few callers. Flop was A-x-x and the original raiser checked, and a middle position bet, I raised (still blind) and the blind raiser and the better called. Another bet on the turn folded out the remaining player and the blind player and I were heads up.River was a rag that helped no one, and we checked it down. I flipped over KK! I never looked, but he had the Ace to take the pot (he had a weak offsuit kicker that couldn't beat the board)
Regardless of odds and strength of your hand, I think you made a sound decision based on how you recognized the trouble the KK could spell out for you, and you protected yourself, which is key at the money part of the tournement. since you didn't tell us what cards were on the board I assume QQ took the pot, doubled up, and crippled the chip leader. All that did was shift chips on the table, but didn't effect your stack size.
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After all this
is gambling. There is only one out of the 169 hands that is better than yours pre flop. With odds like this I would say your making a big mistake throwing away this hand prefop. At least you could call. If an ace hits on the flop, then you should start worrying. However, all-in is the correct play. If the chipleader is holding Ax he will probably fold it knowing that somone has a pocket pair. If the chip leader is holding any other pocket pair besides aces you have a dominating hand. Your goal in a no-limit tournament is to take someones chips. If you cant take them with KK preflop you have some learning to do.
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Doyle Brunson says that to attack is to win and to defend is to loose in NLHE...If that is true then the correct play was to go all in with the second best starting hand avavilable, being in position and going up against a player who is out of position.
By the way, how did you do in the tourney?
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Originally posted by seloupass:
I would like opinions,analysis of this hand i played.
Its the final 2 tables of a 20$ nl hold'em tourney with 365 players,top 14 left 7 per table , blinds 1500/3000 , all players are tight ,good ones. i am delt KK one seat righ of button(excellent position for KK).UTG folds , UTG+1 raises 12000 ,he has the big stack at the table(42k) and has not played much since comming over from the broken up 3rd table) another player fold and then the player before me thinks for 5 secs then goes all in for 17K it comes back to me now i have 35K and have the second biggest stack with 15K more than anybody else but 10K less then the big stack.
I'm afraid utg+1 has aces but not 100% sure ,if i call and win i am big stack for tourney and have a good shot at a top prize .if i fold i have 35k and have lots of respect at table so i can keep building my stack the way i have been doing by stealing the blinds) i decide to fold deciding i have a good enought chance to win the tourney without that pot or the risk of going broke against the only guy at my table that can bust me. should i have called??end result utg+1 has 55 and the other all in player has QQ.
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im with kurn nothing 2 think about u live n die wit kk aa u r {mallod}if right spelling.TOOK BALLS TO POST THAT MADNESS
am banned from PartyPoker so that's out
but otherwise
what are some of the best poker rooms?
I'm looking for a variety of games
including different games and different money limits.
I'm also looking for good tournament practice, both shootout and multitable.
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Dare I ask why you were banned from Party?
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multiple accounts from same computer
they basically stole $175 of my money when they shut me out
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I should also say that I"m looking for a large population of players so I can always find a game
I like Hold Em of course
but also 7card stud, 7card no peak, draw, crazy pineapple etc
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srolle
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what about empire poker?
its the same as party... if they let you do that...
scott
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SamSlade
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Well I like PokerStars, plenty of games and the tourney structures are better than Party in my opinion (i.e. 10% to the house, not 20% and more start chips).
Play seems more solid at Stars. I'm making a profit there unlike Party, lost a bucketload there!
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Originally posted by BlueOakleyz:
I should also say that I"m looking for a large population of players so I can always find a game
I like Hold Em of course
but also 7card stud, 7card no peak, draw, crazy pineapple etc
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Ultimate Bet is very good and offers those games, they also have a quite a large number of players (not as much as Party, but seems to be growing).
Pokerstars is also very good, but offer a smaller choice of games eg. no pineapple, no heads up - but do offer 18 person sit and go tournies.
Out of interest, why did you risk having multiple accounts on Party anyway? What was the benefit?
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YolkyPalky
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Why did they ban you for having multiple accounts? Were you playing two or more simultaneously? At the same table??
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BlueOakleyz
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no, nothing cheateriffic like that
just used more accounts + more people than just me on one computer
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Cardster
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Hey Come and choose whatever pokerroom you like.
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BlueOakleyz
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How is absolute poker?
Seems like a good place
has players per flop percentages for a given table which is nice
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I have found luckynugget to be a good pokerroom, plesent and the freerolls are good to.
Plus they give you cash to sign up...not bad i did that and have been building my account on the original £10.00 they gave me.
part of the prima poker network
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i've been playing NL single table tourneys
having good success
today how
ever, 7 tourneys haven't placed in one, all of these hands i went all in on
2 sets on the flop beat by perfect perfect straights
nut flush on turn, bang board pairs on riv, fullhouse.
nut straight on turn, there comes one of my cards on riv to split pot.
late in tourneys all in with ak twice, lose to 99 twice, all in with qq, lose to aj
JUst nothing works
so my question is, what do you do when its all going wrong?
should you keep playing and try to get your hours in (I wasn't tilting or anything)
or just give up for the day and try again the next
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wasntme
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i consider myself to be a very good low limit holdem tournament player. my current win streak is I have 3 tournament wins and one second place in my last 8 tournaments ($10+1).
i also have times when nothing goes right. just like you are expieriencing right now. the hardest thing to do is stay away. but thats the only cure in my opinion. i will usually take a day or two off. and go back and review my game plan. usually i will find the problem, and make corrections. for me its usually playing too many hands and playing out of position (not that position is of that much importance at the low limits). but anyways, it sounds like you are just expiereincing some bad beats. so take some time off, and revamp. good luck, it will change dont worry.
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RobBulliT
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Just keep at it man!
I played 6 HE SNG's yesterday, didn't place in one either.
But today's a new day and I'm sure I'll place today.
Just hope the good cards will hold up. :-)
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If you play No Limit Hold em sit n gos then there's a very interesting post on the subject by Newgca on rgp today.
it's a reply under a thread entitled 'super aggresive heads up players'
He's probably posted it before but it's the first time i've seen it, would say it's definately worth a look.
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BlueOakleyz
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I dont get it,
why do you automatically go ALL-IN? is that mandatory? Have you been watching the WPT too much?
is there any reason why you wouldn't want to make a smaller bet and get people to call if you have the best hand? or if not, you still have some chips to play with?
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Acessuited
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because its late in the tourney and I want the blinds, Generally i had 3-4 times the BB, so what else would I do raise the minimum or call? I don't want people to see there ax's for nothin when i have QQ. Or if i have ak, i limp or raise the min, 75 percent of the time I get a caller, whatever comes I pretty much have to go in, rag flop comes 573, oh look he was in bb and has 57. In my opinion when you have a premium hand late in tourney you have to put the chips in.
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BlueOakleyz
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that's so stupid
what makes you think that if they call a big bet they aren't going to call allin with crap too?
There's no reason to jeapordize all your chips and your tournament seat on a hand that can be beat so easily...
pick your battles wisely
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Z
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Originally posted by Acessuited:
What do you do when nothing works?
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I quit!!!!
[This message has been edited by Z (edited 12-21-2003).]
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Acessuited
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Blue oakleys
when you have 1200 chips and the blinds are 300 your raise the minimum like you want, you miss your ak you fold, good luck winning like that man. And if they want to call my all-in with junk then thats fine, I have well the best of it and will win a majority of the time. I'd rather take the blinds then risk it but I'm happy with them calling as well.
To win tournaments you have to take some risk, you would probably get aa in your blind, get raised and fold waiting for a better opportunity.
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BlueOakleyz
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heh, dont talk to me about being an amateur in tournaments.
but i agree with 300 blinds and only having 1200 chips to go all in,
but with such a small stack, don't expect to have much of a chance to begin with
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Acessuited
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What the hell are you talking about?
all you have been doing this thread is going against everything I say no matter what it is.
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I think you're concentrating on the end when you go broke too much, rather than focusing on the events that lead you to have so few chips. If you consistently are short-stacked by the time the blinds reach 300 in a SnG then you are playing way too loose at the beginning. I suppose you could think it's good that you're making it that far but in an SnG you have to pick your spots and hold on once you have 2-3 times the starting amount. You don't need to necessarily sit out after that but don't get in pots where there is very little payoff and be able to release hands that look good at the beginning if you hit nothing on the flop.
I think your line about taking risks to win tournaments speaks volumes about your play in SnG's. That's true in a large tournament, but not necessarily a SnG.
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